Skinwalker Ranch (Updates)

This is exactly right. And it's indicative of the bigger issue that these agencies see each other as competitors rather than part of the same team. I remember years ago there was a piece in the news about some information that was made public and how over a dozen US Intelligence agencies had all reviewed the information and came to the same conclusion. People were debating about the information and what it meant, but I was more concerned that there were that many separate agencies all doing pretty much the same thing.

This is why stuff like the military helicopters at Skinwalker Ranch and the disclosures of the "tic tac" videos by the military has me concerned. Having been in and around this community and seeing how they think and operate I know there is reason this information was allowed to come out and be this public. And whoever came up with that reason very likely believes they are 10 times more clever than they really are about it.
the helicopters are either a diversion or just for entertainment purposes by the show...honestly.... if the military or gov. wanted info they would send a team in for observation...or a drone.....neither of which would be seen.
 
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the helicopters are either a diversion or just for entertainment purposes by the show...honestly.... if the military or gov. wanted info they would send a team in for observation...or a drone.....neither of which would be seen.
Sorry, Paul, but I strongly disagree with you. I'm assuming you don't watch the series but are responding to comments. The Utah Attorney General got involved in tracking down what we now know was a Blackhawk helicopter that was not using it's transponder. And it's not the first time it's happened. And I would bet that the government is tracking everything that goes on there and doesn't care if it's seen or not.
 
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Sorry, Paul, but I strongly disagree with you. I'm assuming you don't watch the series but are responding to comments. The Utah Attorney General got involved in tracking down what we now know was a Blackhawk helicopter that was not using it's transponder. And it's not the first time it's happened. And I would bet that the government is tracking everything that goes on there and doesn't care if it's seen or not.
Between both shows there are many hints the government or some secretive entity (or both) is keeping a close watch and ear to what they are doing. The fact they are keeping things public may help shed light and perhaps keep them from being shutdown...as they mentioned in latest show. I'd love to see someone up on the lift and shoot a massive amount of paint balls at this thing and see if any are deflected or actually paint something. One way to work around a cloak if that is the case.
 
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Sorry, Paul, but I strongly disagree with you. I'm assuming you don't watch the series but are responding to comments. The Utah Attorney General got involved in tracking down what we now know was a Blackhawk helicopter that was not using it's transponder. And it's not the first time it's happened. And I would bet that the government is tracking everything that goes on there and doesn't care if it's seen or not.
i think there is only four or so situations that even military aircraft can turn off transponders (or at least the ads-b systems...natl defense, homeland security, law enforcement-fbi related, and intelligence) now, granted, intelligence could be a reason if this is true, but even then they have to have FAA authorization, and its not really a secret if permission has been granted, unless its an on going operation, in which then that info would not have been publicly available... if the attorney general got that info then its not an active investigation. a helicopter is not the best use for intel gathering. but it IS the best use to drop a team in ....lol..... if travis is on the uap task force then they have access to all the info coming from the ranch already, no need for spook operations or black birds flying around....i havent watched the show in a while, just kinda follow along here and there, but i am familiar with SOP of how military intelligence and the methods of gathering intel works. ... if the attorney general, or anyone for that matter, leaked out an ongoing military, fbi, cia, etc... investigation of any type his career would be over, that tells me its either a possible fabrication for the show, or something unrelated alltogether. could be wrong, just have to wait and see....lol
 
I wanted on Insiders for the revelation show on episode 11 but had to leave before it ever got started. I notice there's no entry for the posting of the entire revelation 11 show so was there actually a revelation for episode 11 or did the chat never air for that episode?
 
I wanted on Insiders for the revelation show on episode 11 but had to leave before it ever got started. I notice there's no entry for the posting of the entire revelation 11 show so was there actually a revelation for episode 11 or did the chat never air for that episode?
Hi Tribute, I am not familiar with this show, is it a US program? Sorry I can't help you with this. Maybe a google search.
 
i think there is only four or so situations that even military aircraft can turn off transponders (or at least the ads-b systems...natl defense, homeland security, law enforcement-fbi related, and intelligence) now, granted, intelligence could be a reason if this is true, but even then they have to have FAA authorization, and its not really a secret if permission has been granted, unless its an on going operation, in which then that info would not have been publicly available... if the attorney general got that info then its not an active investigation. a helicopter is not the best use for intel gathering. but it IS the best use to drop a team in ....lol..... if travis is on the uap task force then they have access to all the info coming from the ranch already, no need for spook operations or black birds flying around....i havent watched the show in a while, just kinda follow along here and there, but i am familiar with SOP of how military intelligence and the methods of gathering intel works. ... if the attorney general, or anyone for that matter, leaked out an ongoing military, fbi, cia, etc... investigation of any type his career would be over, that tells me its either a possible fabrication for the show, or something unrelated alltogether. could be wrong, just have to wait and see....lol
This the kind of stuff I'm talking about. If the government wanted to secretly monitor the activity on the ranch they have the tools available to do it much better. Having blacked out helicopters hovering withing visual and audio range of the targets is not surveillance, it's something else. Whoever is in those helicopters knows that there are TV film crews on the ground, I'm guessing that the cameras are the target more than the people on the Ranch. Someone wants the optics of "Government Black Helicopters" flying over the Ranch broadcast to TV viewers. Just like someone wants the optics that there is advanced technology "of unknown origin" that our military is unable to counter or evade. I'm just not sure why, what the goal is in making this information public.
 
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This the kind of stuff I'm talking about. If the government wanted to secretly monitor the activity on the ranch they have the tools available to do it much better. Having blacked out helicopters hovering withing visual and audio range of the targets is not surveillance, it's something else. Whoever is in those helicopters knows that there are TV film crews on the ground, I'm guessing that the cameras are the target more than the people on the Ranch. Someone wants the optics of "Government Black Helicopters" flying over the Ranch broadcast to TV viewers. Just like someone wants the optics that there is advanced technology "of unknown origin" that our military is unable to counter or evade. I'm just not sure why, what the goal is in making this information public.
in the state of the world right now, every opportunity for dis-information is being used. the whole UFO topic and having alien tech is a wide open field for such info to be hinted at or "leaked" for just that purpose, keep the world guessing at what we may have or know..... i see disinformation articles all over the news sites and news feeds.... you know the whole "rumor control" philosophy of the military. .... entertainment is the number one method of spreading such info.
 
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It's a show on the History channel and is about an area in Utah called Skinwalker Ranch where many strange things happen. There is at least one possible portal, skinwalkers, cattle mutiliation, etc. A group of scientists and others investigate what is going on and trying to establish a scientific basic and explanation for the events.
 
It's a show on the History channel and is about an area in Utah called Skinwalker Ranch where many strange things happen. There is at least one possible portal, skinwalkers, cattle mutiliation, etc. A group of scientists and others investigate what is going on and trying to establish a scientific basic and explanation for the events.

Hi Tribute:

Like Lynne, I had no clue what you were asking about. I now see the confusion. We already have a thread on the SWR series, I have included the link for this thread above. We also have a second thread dealing with the series "behind the scenes," this one includes the observations of one of our esteemed members, GoneWestUtah, who participated in some of the SWR investigations within the series. Here is that link:


Please don't start a new thread when you have a topic you wish to discuss until you've looked to see if such a thread, or something related/similar, already exists on PNF. If you are having difficulty navigating the site or searching for topics, please contact one of the forum moderators or staff members for assistance.

I will move your "What happened last Thursday?" question to the main SWR thread where it will be seen and hopefully understood by those who watch and comment on the series.